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fandom_scruples.
*Absolutely* we should protect the children from anything that might sully their darling little eyes. And ears.
I mean, look at me. All those Greek myths from the age of 5 onwards. Graduating to *gasp* Georgette Heyer at around age 10 or 11. And let's not mention when I was 13 and was the purveyor of smut in school. All those Harold Robbins and Jackie Collins I had stashed away in my school bag. (And if I'd known then about slash you can be damn sure I'd have had a stash of slash ready to hand out like smarties, too).
So, take my experience as a horrible learning lesson, oh children. Because, yes, it could happen to you too. After reading copious amounts of smut whilst underage you too could grow up to become... a lawyer!
The horror, the horror...
fandom_scruples.*Absolutely* we should protect the children from anything that might sully their darling little eyes. And ears.
I mean, look at me. All those Greek myths from the age of 5 onwards. Graduating to *gasp* Georgette Heyer at around age 10 or 11. And let's not mention when I was 13 and was the purveyor of smut in school. All those Harold Robbins and Jackie Collins I had stashed away in my school bag. (And if I'd known then about slash you can be damn sure I'd have had a stash of slash ready to hand out like smarties, too).
So, take my experience as a horrible learning lesson, oh children. Because, yes, it could happen to you too. After reading copious amounts of smut whilst underage you too could grow up to become... a lawyer!
The horror, the horror...
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Date: 14 January 2004 13:16 (UTC)*g*
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Date: 14 January 2004 13:24 (UTC)no subject
Date: 14 January 2004 13:18 (UTC)I can confirm that this is true, because it happened to me, too ... ::sob:: Ah, what a waste of a young life ...
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Date: 14 January 2004 13:25 (UTC)::cowers::
Date: 14 January 2004 13:23 (UTC)The horror!
Of course, we librarians have your butts beat at the porn pimping thing :)
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Date: 14 January 2004 13:32 (UTC)I'm all for more PG slash, hence PinkAsteroids" but unfortunately I also like writing in certain universes that weren't very 'suitable for children' before I added the sex.
See
Gina
Gina
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Date: 14 January 2004 13:38 (UTC)*beams*
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Date: 14 January 2004 13:45 (UTC)Gina
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Date: 14 January 2004 14:50 (UTC)Now, I've written incest, but it was original character incest. So now I'm wondering whether that counts, and whether I ought to be on the blacklist. Or is it only HP fandom where incest is bad?
Ah, Jackie Collins. {nostalgic sigh} I remember lurking behind shelves in WH Smiths, trawling through JC books for the porny bits.
The best Sekrit Porn I had as a kid was in a Richard Adams book. He wrote a veeeeeery long fantasy novel, the name of which I've completely forgotten, where (in my hazy imagination) the heroine spends a lot of the book as a sex slave. Also, IIRC, one of the Dune books had a steamy page or two.
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Date: 14 January 2004 14:55 (UTC)Oooh I know that one. I have it somewhere, although it's at my parents' house. And the heroine was a sex slave of sorts. She was a Gorgeous Peasant Girl, as I recall, who ended up as a slave. Can't remember the details now, save that the book wasn't very good.
Yes, the Dune books did have a few steamy pages. The Gor books (I was *young*, okay) had a lot more.
I think it's only HP fandom where incest is automatically bad ;)
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Date: 14 January 2004 15:27 (UTC)The big advantage of Maia (thanks, Tem) and the Dune books was that they were respectable fantasy and SF, therefore could be perused at will.
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Date: 15 January 2004 13:25 (UTC)What, so are you saying that the Gor books weren't respectable?
Have you ever read John Norman's book about sexual fantasies? It's, well...definitely educational. Also very, very, very funny, in a way that I'm sure he never meant it to be. And, with it all, bizarrely sweet.
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Date: 15 January 2004 14:14 (UTC)God no. Reading the Gor books was emough.
Also very, very, very funny, in a way that I'm sure he never meant it to be.
Giggle. Why am I not surprised? Given his views as to sexuality (there seems to be no room for any of the multiplicity of human expression in his little universe), that is.
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Date: 14 January 2004 15:06 (UTC)Maybe i'll just go find a copy. I think I lurked in the adult section of the library for nearly three evenings reading that. I wasn't old enough to borrow it.
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Date: 14 January 2004 15:14 (UTC)That's it. And, until you reminded me, I'd managed to forget all about the broom handle *glares at Tem*.
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Date: 14 January 2004 15:43 (UTC)Or broom.
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Date: 14 January 2004 15:33 (UTC)The temple statue
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I remember that! Metal! With an expanding, jointed... Yes, well.
I don't remember the broom handle, though. Wasn't there spanking at some point? I'm sure I remember spanking, and some weird carved statue thing that the spanking happened on. You know, I never quite looked at Watership Down the same way after I'd read Maia.
I think I need to find my copy too. I suspect it's in a box at my mum and dad's house, where I abandoned it once I graduated to proper porn :-)
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Date: 14 January 2004 15:07 (UTC)The horror! The horror!
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Date: 14 January 2004 15:44 (UTC)I see what you mean.
Will no one think of the children??!!!??oneone!!11?
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Date: 15 January 2004 14:11 (UTC)So, not completely damned then. Yet.
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Date: 15 January 2004 14:26 (UTC)Better that than Law and Social Sciences...
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Date: 30 January 2004 07:47 (UTC)And yes, I concur with the "case law". Generations of law students still snigger over those, I suspect. But then reality will outdo fantasy pretty much all of the time. In a non-sexual context I still remember reading with utter horror what criminal negligence entails (I'm thinking particularly of the bedridden woman who was meant to be cared for by her mentally subnormal relatives and what condition her corpse was found in).
I doubt very much that most fanfiction writers would use such details in even the most extreme 'out there' story because they're real and not at all sexy. Nauseating, rather.
Reading case law does tend to harden one. I suspect that I'm pretty nearly impossible to shock (although definitely not squick) and that I'm not alone. I still cherish fond memories of being one of a group of the lawyers at the City law firm I was with at the time who were asked to view some porn tapes that a German company wanted to sell in the UK for obscenity. Needless to say none of us felt 'depraved and corrupted', but then we wouldn't, would we...
Mind you, as you probably know, it's next to impossible now to obtain an obscenity conviction in London (and any other British city, I suspect) because the jury might not like what they see but they're not going to feel as if they've been corrupted as a result. Nowadays the police only attempt to bring proceedings of cases involving bestiality, 'unacceptable' violence (that goes beyond what is clearly fantasy material) and pornography involving minors. Anything else they won't even bother with.
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Date: 30 January 2004 13:37 (UTC)The maggots writhing in her thighs? Yes. Whoever fandom_scruples is, she, he or it has a lot to learn.
But actually, he she or it is, has no concept - no concept whatsoever -